Wishlist for 'BETA 0.08'

Calimero · Post by **Calimero** » Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:38 pm

I played the Nutella with the keyboard and it was really hard to get a decent shot out. In TI the keyboard control is perfect!

Danne · Post by **Danne** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:13 am

Calimero wrote:I played the Nutella with the keyboard and it was really hard to get a decent shot out. In TI the keyboard control is perfect!

Yea, Nutella isnt as good as Throw In gameplaywise but I am not surprised. Some of the GFX looks very good though such as the stadium and the pitches.

TheFoxSoft · Post by **TheFoxSoft** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:43 am

Danne wrote:
Calimero wrote:I played the Nutella with the keyboard and it was really hard to get a decent shot out. In TI the keyboard control is perfect!

Yea, Nutella isnt as good as Throw In gameplaywise but I am not surprised. Some of the GFX looks very good though such as the stadium and the pitches.

well you know, young guys cannot play with only 1 button and without CPU aids...

Danne · Post by **Danne** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:45 am

TheFoxSoft wrote:
Danne wrote:
Calimero wrote:I played the Nutella with the keyboard and it was really hard to get a decent shot out. In TI the keyboard control is perfect!

Yea, Nutella isnt as good as Throw In gameplaywise but I am not surprised. Some of the GFX looks very good though such as the stadium and the pitches.

well you know, young guys cannot play with only 1 button and without CPU aids...

Yea we know.

I should have said. For joystick users the Throw in Gameplay is better.

I wouldnt be surprised if Nutella is better for keyboard users. Defenitely for young kids...

Bounty Bob · Post by **Bounty Bob** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:14 am

TheFoxSoft wrote:well you know, young guys cannot play with only 1 button and without CPU aids...

Everything is better without CPU aids. Can you imagine Kick Off without CPU slides, CPU jumps, CPU deciding to switch your players. It would be heaven.

Bounty Bob · Post by **Bounty Bob** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:16 am

Also when running with the ball in the box, wanting to trap it and the CPU deciding that you really need to slide instead.

Danne · Post by **Danne** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:00 pm

Bounty Bob wrote:
TheFoxSoft wrote:well you know, young guys cannot play with only 1 button and without CPU aids...
Everything is better without CPU aids. Can you imagine Kick Off without CPU slides, CPU jumps, CPU deciding to switch your players. It would be heaven.

I agree. Sadly the football industry is more about 'the more CPU aids the better'...

On amiga you played football games. Now you watch them.

Also when running with the ball in the box, wanting to trap it and the CPU deciding that you really need to slide instead.

I actually think this works quit well in Throw in and as far as I know the player won't slide if you are running with the ball and wanna trap it.

Bounty Bob · Post by **Bounty Bob** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:33 pm

Danne wrote:On amiga you played football games. Now you watch them.

My point was to highlight that there are aids in the Amiga games too. Most of the 'aids' in kick off are much more intrusive than any aids in pro evolution soccer 6. In modern games I rarely have a problem with the game doing something that I didn't intend.

TheFoxSoft · Post by **TheFoxSoft** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:42 pm

Bounty Bob wrote:
Danne wrote:On amiga you played football games. Now you watch them.
My point was to highlight that there are aids in the Amiga games too. Most of the 'aids' in kick off are much more intrusive than any aids in pro evolution soccer 6. In modern games I rarely have a problem with the game doing something that I didn't intend.

like when the defender take 3 minutes just to clear the area and finishing the animation?

Bounty Bob · Post by **Bounty Bob** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 4:46 pm

Trying not to take the bait. :lol:

Danne · Post by **Danne** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:42 pm

TheFoxSoft wrote:
Bounty Bob wrote:
Danne wrote:On amiga you played football games. Now you watch them.
My point was to highlight that there are aids in the Amiga games too. Most of the 'aids' in kick off are much more intrusive than any aids in pro evolution soccer 6. In modern games I rarely have a problem with the game doing something that I didn't intend.

like when the defender take 3 minutes just to clear the area and finishing the animation?

Calimero · Post by **Calimero** » Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:30 pm

Bounty Bob wrote:Also when running with the ball in the box, wanting to trap it and the CPU deciding that you really need to slide instead.

I wouldn't call that an 'aid';)

But you're a brave man, Mark, not taking the very strong bait

Actually I more agree with Gianluca, because the modern games depend very heavily on pushing the buttons at the right time. Mostly they annoy me because they are sluggish and the players have a stepsize of about 2 meters

Inspite that I like FIFA 2005 because it the annoyance is relatively low and you can make some nice plays. It's a game I occasionally play on X-box from the couch. Just some relaxed chess-like matches

But if there would come a game like Throw In with cups and leagues, I would cast FIFA aside and play it to death!

Calimero · Post by **Calimero** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:29 pm

After playing some matches with the 0.071 beta, I have some small things I really would like to see changed in the next version:
1. redefine keys once in options screen, not before every match
2. change the assignment of the pgup and pgdn keys, because they are too close to the arrow keys (I keep hitting them by accident, giving away penalties)
3. less delay after a slide tackle
4. scorers names and minutes after the match
5. aftertouch on goalkeeper kicks
6. selectable shotpower on goalkeeper kicks