10th Kick Off 2 World Cup - Slidebugfixes VOTE RESULT PAGE 7

[Cornelius]

As there are some discussions inside the german KickOff scene and maybe although in some other countries scenes, about the possibility to choose the bugfixes for autoslides & unintended slides before every match, the WC organisation team decided to make a poll about this issue.

There are two options you can vote for :

Option A :
Before the start of a match, both contrahents can agree to freely choose the settings for autoslides and unintended slides. That means each of the player can choose his own settings individually. If the two can't agree to that, they will automaticly play with both bugfixes turned off.

Option B :
In order to avoid discussions and irritations about this issue, no one can use any of the slide bugfixes.

Option C :
Each player can choose his own settings, like he/she prefers: BugFix on or off. There is no agreement necessary.


Because this is an issue that concerns the participants of the wc, only people who are on the confirmed list are allowed to vote and only with a pm to me (Cornelius), so that we can be sure there will be no votes from any non-participating person and no double votes. Simply send me a pm with option A, option B or option C. Only the votes send to me per pm will be counted.

The poll will end on sunday the 17th.



Other important deadlines Volker would like to remind you :

registration necessary

for friday
brewery sightseeing last date on 15.10.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=16061


for saturday
footy and food in the evening last date on 13.10.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=16044

catering(drink, lunch and coffee) at the tournament place last date on 15.10.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=15928


for sunday
catering(drink, lunch and coffee) at the tournament place last date on 15.10.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=15928

[Cornelius]

It would be nice, if this thread could be made sticky.

[FrankF]

In my opinion, option C is missing:
C) each player can deside on his own , what he/she prefers: BugFix on or off
No agreement necessary.

With only A and B, enemies of the bugfix will always "win", friends of the bugfixes will have to face
other friends to turn them on.
If your poll shows that there are more friends than enemies, an option C would only be fair.

Free the bugfix !

[Steve Camber]

Good point Frank.

May we include the C option?

[hogstrom]

The suggested C option, bearing slidebugfixautobugfix ON for any of the two players, is a game i only tried once, with bad experience. The time i tried it (Luton i belive) my defence was out of order. When staying close to opposition players (when I was defending) it did not force the otherwise standard slide to occure, wich did cause havoc in my backline.

Frankly, I would like to suggest this poll to be shortened if the suggested C option would be added. Much more in advance than 5-6 days until the Wcup start i would like to know what game that will be played in Dusseldorf. Thanks.

[Robert]

Cornelius, if C option is available, please edit your post. That's what I would like to vote for.

[r.cross]

I would truly miss Cox sliding automatically through the box causing pure horror in the defenders face. For me that's part of the fun. I understand though that players with higher ambitions think differently about that issue, because those moments could be the crucial ones, leading to different outcomes.

However, I vote for 'B'.

[gdh82]

I also agree that the suggested third choice would provide a more balanced poll:

Option A - Limited Choice - choice of preferences allowed only if opponent agrees
Option B - No Choice - preferences determined by organiser
Option C - Full Choice - each player determines their own team's settings

Of course each option has it's own pros and cons depending on our individual point of view.

It's worth adding that even with Option C, players are NOT forced to play with or without the autofix/trapfix. There's nothing to stop two players with such a preference to both play without fixes.

Above all, I'm sure we all agree that its best for everyone if this poll is conducted constructively and in a spirit of fair play.

[hogstrom]

It's worth adding that even with Option C, players are NOT forced to play with or without the autofix/trapfix. There's nothing to stop two players with such a preference to both play without fixes.

When you have it in bold text i presume this something important, Garry. Im unsure what you mean with this...Is the point that if i would like my players risking sliding i can do that, while opposition (using fix) can use that and his players would not be sliding (when trying to trap in bad position)?


Anyhow, if a majority of the players would choose to take them out i would like to know that as quick as possible, before the 17:th preferable, becasue if that would be the case i must try to adapt quickly.

[gdh82]

It's worth adding that even with Option C, players are NOT forced to play with or without the autofix/trapfix. There's nothing to stop two players with such a preference to both play without fixes.

Im unsure what you mean with this...Is the point that if i would like my players risking sliding i can do that, while opposition (using fix) can use that and his players would not be sliding (when trying to trap in bad position)?

Sorry John for not being clear. I was simply trying to say that giving players the option to choose their own settings does not mean games have to be played one way or the other. You could equally have pairs of players who play "slide-enabled" as those who prefer slide-free. This choice does not extend to having control over your opponents settings of course but that's another matter.

Btw I agree that whatever the outcome a decision sooner is better.

[Peter]

Im voting for "b"!
Its simply more fun with automatic sliding!!

[hogstrom]

Thanks for explaining, Garry. I agree about the fact that pairs of players can always use any of the options available if both agree. If im not mistaken, there is no problem using (for instance) wind either, if both agree about that setting.

But, in differance to case penalty box dribbling, you´ll never see a game with one player using slidefree options and the other is not. The reason for that never will happen is obvious, you fancy opposition players to slide rather than your own players to mess things up by sliding. I suggest these options can be used by both, or none of the two players involved.

Garry, I should add that i can live with the slidefree option, im sure it is enjoyable. But i would need time to adapt. I have ONE chance to play human opposition before the Wcup. When i do that, this weekend or next, it would be good to know what settings we should use in that training-session.

So Cornelius, please confirm A+B will be the only options or not. If adding a C option, then please shorten the time for voting. If C is added, i suggest a removal of A or B is preferable when they´re about the same when compared with C.

[Cornelius]

On behalf of a broad public demand an option C was added.

Please don't forget that your vote should be send via pm, for the reasons described in my opening post.