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About using pc's and emulation for tournaments

Postby Freshmaker » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:27 am

I guess this question is best directed at Gianni and Camber;

What would you guys say is the required hardware to be able to use pc's for KO2-tournaments? And how should we set it up? Software; what's available, what do we need?
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Re: About using pc's and emulation for tournaments

Postby JohnVella » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:47 pm

I've run an Amiga emulator on the Raspberry Pi and it's sweet!

The best Amiga emulator I've seen for Windows is Amiga Forever, and THIS PAGE has information about system requirements.

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Re: About using pc's and emulation for tournaments

Postby JohnVella » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:24 am

I've also dug out my Windows / Android tablet, and will install the latest Amiga Forever on that tonight. It's got an Atom processor, with 2GB of RAM and I'm fairly sure that AF2013 ran really well on that.

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Re: About using pc's and emulation for tournaments

Postby Freshmaker » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:33 am

Gonna try this on my 6 years old laptop...
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Re: About using pc's and emulation for tournaments

Postby JohnVella » Mon Jun 19, 2017 6:32 pm

Freshmaker wrote:Gonna try this on my 6 years old laptop...

It "should" be fine, but please do let us know how you get on.
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Re: About using pc's and emulation for tournaments

Postby Torchiador » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:53 pm

Very short recap. the crucial point is the monitor. you can have a NASA PC with 512 cores in parallel but if you have a 7ms delay monitor like most of Full HD 60 Hz monitor, there is anything you can do, there will be input lag, there will be stuttering, there will be tearing. no matter how far.
just only very fast and expensive monitor can nullify input lag, tearing and stuttering.
The second crucial point is the USB adapter but finally we found the best one and now it is quite common on amazon and it is quite common in the KOA!
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Re: About using pc's and emulation for tournaments

Postby Freshmaker » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:12 am

Thanks Gianni. Good input.

But what software did you use?
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Re: About using pc's and emulation for tournaments

Postby Torchiador » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:53 am

WinUAE.

I'm doing some testing, recording high speed video clips comparing the real thing (amiga+1084s) with high tech emulation and Kool. in terms of input and feeling perception, we have amiga feeling but looking at numbers, Kool is faster than winUAE.
so in my opinion, if Steve could guarantee a 100% kick off 2 in his kool, it would be better to play Kool in a local game instead of WinUAE. i can figure out easily a network of kool machines that automatically send the result to the server updating automatically the standings on the big screen. auto math of best attack average, best defence. and applying some microphone, best outburst of course
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Re: About using pc's and emulation for tournaments

Postby Freshmaker » Tue Jun 20, 2017 8:43 pm

Interesting. Yes, I've been playing with that thought myself; asking Camber prettypleasewithsugarontop, is it possible to play proper matches, locally, in KOOL.

Camber? What would you say?
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Re: About using pc's and emulation for tournaments

Postby Steve Camber » Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:23 am

It's already possible.
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Re: About using pc's and emulation for tournaments

Postby Freshmaker » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:22 pm

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