WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV

Talk about EVERYTHING related to Kick Off 1 + 2.

Moderator: Moderators

lolafg
Posting is free!!!
Posting is free!!!
Posts: 59
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:11 am

WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV

Postby lolafg » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:13 am

StingRay in English Amiga Board did the whdload install !!

A big Thank you to him !!
User avatar
Steve Camber
Mad! 7000+ poster!
Mad! 7000+ poster!
Posts: 7511
Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Sheffield, England
Contact:

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby Steve Camber » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:57 am

Now that sounds interesting! If I can see what he's done, it could possibly be automatically applied to all future releases :)
--
SteveC - Kick Off engineer - Ranked somewhere waaaay down the list
18 Dec 2003 - "One day I'm going to disassemble the 68000 code, and find out exactly what's going on in there!! "

Ask me about online KO2 :)
StingRay
Posting is free!!!
Posting is free!!!
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:20 pm

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby StingRay » Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:35 pm

Steve Camber wrote:Now that sounds interesting! If I can see what he's done, it could possibly be automatically applied to all future releases :)


That shouldn't be much of a problem. ;) Actually, there wasn't that much to patch, I just fixed a few bugs and cracked the game properly. Then I found the discussion about the "PB Dribble" feature/bug and had fun reading it. :D And I can assure that it has absolutely nothing to do with the missed checksum in the Oracle crack! I still wonder how Weetibix could overlook that one though. :) Actually, before I made that WHDLoad slave I didn't even know that the Oracle crack wasn't 100% as I used it back in the day and it always worked fine for me. Many hours "wasted" playing Kick Off 2 using the Oracle crack. Anyway, the missed checksum in the Oracle crack (and the Kick Off 2 CV version apparently :P) will cause the game to crash, not more, not less as the stackpointer is fucked up when the checksum is incorrect. If you're interested, check offset $899E in the decrypted Kick Off 2 file. ;) On a side note, the Final Whistle CV version is also not cracked properly, I noticed that when I did the WHDload patch. Yes, again, not all checksums were removed. :D Anyway, that was my first post here but hopefully not the last! I've been quite a Kick Off 2 fan since the game was released and it's funny to load it up (even if just to do the WHDLoad patch) again after so many years. ;)

Cheers, Stinger
Last edited by StingRay on Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Torchiador
3000+ poster!
3000+ poster!
Posts: 3487
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2003 3:34 pm
Location: Kick Off House - Milano - Italy
Contact:

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby Torchiador » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:07 pm

Welcome in the Kickoff gathering forum!
WOW! Really interesting! so PBD is definitively not a bug!
Hope that our Steve Camber read your post soon!

Cheers
Image
User avatar
dnielsen
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 688
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 9:19 pm
Location: Copenhagen

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby dnielsen » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:15 pm

I thought it was pretty much an established fact these days the PBD was a feature intended for CPU dribbling in Player Manager that made its way into human dribbling too in Player Manager and in some of the official KO2 versions, including the one that the oracle crack was based on!?

And that much of the confusion about the checksum/PBD relationship probably arose from the poor memory of the guy that let PBD slip into human dribbling in the first place!? :lol:
StingRay
Posting is free!!!
Posting is free!!!
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:20 pm

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby StingRay » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:27 pm

dnielsen wrote:I thought it was pretty much an established fact these days the PBD was a feature intended for CPU dribbling in Player Manager that made its way into human dribbling too in Player Manager and in some of the official KO2 versions, including the one that the oracle crack was based on!?

And that much of the confusion about the checksum/PBD relationship probably arose from the poor memory of the guy that let PBD slip into human dribbling in the first place!? :lol:


To be honest, I didn't even know about the PB dribble confusion until 2 days ago when I made the Final Whistle CV WHDLoad patch and needed to download the images from a certain ko-gathering site. :) Today I just saw the thread on this very forum about it and found it incredibly funny that there were rumours that it was caused by a cracking error, i.e. a missed checksum check. ;D
User avatar
dnielsen
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 688
Joined: Sat May 03, 2008 9:19 pm
Location: Copenhagen

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby dnielsen » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:33 pm

Mind you, those rumours came directly from the man who created KO2! (Or I have confused something, but it is not far from the truth.)
User avatar
gdh82
6000+ Poster!
6000+ Poster!
Posts: 6197
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 8:16 pm
Location: Birmingham, England

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby gdh82 » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:49 pm

StingRay wrote: Anyway, that was my first post here but hopefully not the last! I've been quite a Kick Off 2 fan since the game was released and it's funny to load it up (even if just to do the WHDLoad patch) again after so many years. ;)


Welcome Stinger! :) Hope you do stick around....

PS Can anyone tell low-tech thickies like me what a WHDLOAD ? :oops:
All the goals, the stats, the stories & more from the KO2 WC 2011 - please click here

And click here for everything you'll ever need to know about KO2!
lolafg
Posting is free!!!
Posting is free!!!
Posts: 59
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:11 am

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby lolafg » Wed Mar 04, 2009 7:19 am

@gdh82 ,

whdload is a program that can be used in winuae or a real amiga , to make games working without floppies ( sort of hd install) , you can go here : http://www.whdload.de to have more info on how to use it .
StingRay
Posting is free!!!
Posting is free!!!
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:20 pm

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby StingRay » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:45 am

dnielsen wrote:Mind you, those rumours came directly from the man who created KO2! (Or I have confused something, but it is not far from the truth.)


Well, also Galahad claimed that this was caused by a cracking error... I searched the forum a bit and really had quite some fun with all these rumours also coming from someone who claimed to know the game code almost as good as Dino Dini. :) I also see people mentioning 9 checksum checks, I can only find 6 checksum checks in the 1.4 (i.e. Oracle) version and the one that Weetibix missed is at offset $899E as mentioned in my earlier post. I don't know when this checksum will kick in but obviously it doesn't happen very often (if at all) because I used to waste a lot of time with the Oracle crack and it worked fine as already mentioned too. :) Anyway, these rumours provided great entertainment, thanks for that. :D
Last edited by StingRay on Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:01 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
MJB
3000+ poster!
3000+ poster!
Posts: 3121
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Tredworth - Gloucester UK

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby MJB » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:54 am

Hey StingRay! Welcome to the KOA.

Just to confirm then, did PB dribble originate in Player Manager?
Breaking sticks for 30 years...
User avatar
Steve Camber
Mad! 7000+ poster!
Mad! 7000+ poster!
Posts: 7511
Joined: Sat Jun 16, 2001 12:00 am
Location: Sheffield, England
Contact:

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby Steve Camber » Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:53 pm

dnielsen wrote:I thought it was pretty much an established fact these days the PBD was a feature intended for CPU dribbling in Player Manager that made its way into human dribbling too in Player Manager and in some of the official KO2 versions, including the one that the oracle crack was based on!?

And that much of the confusion about the checksum/PBD relationship probably arose from the poor memory of the guy that let PBD slip into human dribbling in the first place!? :lol:

Correct!
--
SteveC - Kick Off engineer - Ranked somewhere waaaay down the list
18 Dec 2003 - "One day I'm going to disassemble the 68000 code, and find out exactly what's going on in there!! "

Ask me about online KO2 :)
User avatar
gdh82
6000+ Poster!
6000+ Poster!
Posts: 6197
Joined: Fri May 26, 2006 8:16 pm
Location: Birmingham, England

Re: WHDLOAD Kick Off 2 CV 1.01

Postby gdh82 » Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:00 pm

lolafg wrote:@gdh82 ,

whdload is a program that can be used in winuae or a real amiga , to make games working without floppies ( sort of hd install) , you can go here : http://www.whdload.de to have more info on how to use it .


Thanks lolafg!
All the goals, the stats, the stories & more from the KO2 WC 2011 - please click here

And click here for everything you'll ever need to know about KO2!

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests