KO2 Competition Version Wish List - First Thread

[Robert Swift]

PBD select before game start would be fine, except that if you start the game and then some complete Wonka says "OH NO! I meant to put PBD on, restart the game!!!" then you are fucked. So, selectable in-game, with some kind of on-screen message is better, as long as this doesn't introduce any more processor load and alter timing in ANY way.

As for this 'PBD makes it easier to score' argument, I don't see the problem in making it selectable for both players, so either player can decide whether they want to use it.

What we have here, is some resistance by 1.4 players because they like to HANDICAP their opponents' scoring by forcing them to play a version that is not intuitive to them. This attitude sucks. What is wrong with each player selecting the penalty box behaviour that is what they are used to? I am sure that there are people like Foxsoft who find PBD makes it harder to score. This is because he is used to working his magic in 1.4.

Make it an in game selectable feature, usable by any player at any moment. The debate will evaporate.

No longer will 1.4 players have to play 'Team B' against me on a version they don't like. We can just have one, neutral, game, where we both play with the penalty box finishing that we are used to. I don't believe in forcing PBD haters to use it any more than I want to use NO PBD.

By the way, finishing is only the final 10% of the game. The game is also about tactics, headers, possession, defending etc.

And Filippo, I know you're only joking mate but saying PBD users are 'cheating' is not helpful and only likely to create an unnecessary argument.

PBD choice for all!

[manicx]

Steve, can you please say to everyone that you lied about the source code and continue to use two versions in tournaments. All I see, is that we will end up arguing about PBD again.

[JamesHBeard]

I agree with Robert Swift.

Steve C, please disregard Nikos' comments. Ta.

[Robert Swift]

Steve, can you please say to everyone that you lied about the source code and continue to use two versions in tournaments. All I see, is that we will end up arguing about PBD again.

Someone's a bit grumpy today!

[JamesHBeard]

It is good too see a leading Oraclite agreeing with a leading 1.4magic campaigner... what a wonderful world we live in...

[filippodb]

What we have here, is some resistance by 1.4 players because they like to HANDICAP their opponents' scoring by forcing them to play a version that is not intuitive to them. This attitude sucks.

thanks god robert doesn't have glue how to modify kick off

Well I think camber understand 100% what I mean: we are working on a new game where none has some advantage over the opponents.
this means no team A advantage but also not a new PBD advantage, I want the same condition for all the game for both players, so half of the game PBD and half with NOPBD, easy and basically fair.

[manicx]

So James and Bob, can you please answer the following?

I generally play better when attacking down. This is me, this is what I like and love, this is how I play for 15 years now. I simply prefer to attack down.

Then we play a one leg tournament, where I have to play the half down with PBD. What happens then? Am I having a disadvantage or what?

[Rodolfo]

1.4 players because they like to HANDICAP their opponents' scoring by forcing them to play a version that is not intuitive to them. This attitude sucks. What is wrong with each player selecting the penalty box behaviour that is what they are used to? I am sure that there are people like Foxsoft who find PBD makes it harder to score. This is because he is used to working his magic in 1.4.

By the way, finishing is only the final 10% of the game. The game is also about tactics, headers, possession, defending etc.

PBD choice for all!

As for me, I do not like to handicap anyone, I am the one who feels handicaped with PBD on. I would feel extremely comfortable if I could have it off for me, on for the oraclite guy.

But as you say, finishing is just 10%, that is very true.

[JamesHBeard]

1.4 players because they like to HANDICAP their opponents' scoring by forcing them to play a version that is not intuitive to them. This attitude sucks. What is wrong with each player selecting the penalty box behaviour that is what they are used to? I am sure that there are people like Foxsoft who find PBD makes it harder to score. This is because he is used to working his magic in 1.4.

By the way, finishing is only the final 10% of the game. The game is also about tactics, headers, possession, defending etc.

PBD choice for all!

As for me, I do not like to handicap anyone, I am the one who feels handicaped with PBD on. I would feel extremely comfortable if I could have it off for me, on for the oraclite guy.

But as you say, finishing is just 10%, that is very true.

These are not comments expected from a prize-twat.

[Robert Swift]

Then we play a one leg tournament, where I have to play the half down with PBD. What happens then? Am I having a disadvantage or what?

Did I propose that Grumpyguts??? Or is this a question for our dreadlocked pizza-munching friend?

I said IN-GAME SWITCHABLE PBD, turn it on and off as you want. Under my proposal you would not have the above situation.

I agree with the posts of James, Rodolfo and Alkis and not the homosexual post of Filipppo

A game that is 50/50 PBD/NO PBD would be CRAP if both players wanted NO PBD or PBD all the time!

PBD Choice for all!

[Rodolfo]

I think I am losing your respect lately

[jesper]

With this drastic reduction in the number games required for a turnament, surely this should leave enough time to load PM tactics and change the default lineup before each game!

[Robert Swift]

Oh shit!! I think I may be about to agree with Jesper!!

Prepare to self-terminate.....