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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2001 10:05 pm
by Gunther
I found a KO picture on http://www.stcarchiv.de/am89/09_kickoff.php3

The strange thing is that the players don't have white arms and legs. I had never seen it before.

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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2001 10:13 pm
by Ely
Bear in mind that's the Atari ST version. Can't remember if the colors of the Arms and Legs were different tho. ?? They look the same when I run it on WinFellow (Amiga) and Steem Engine (Atari)

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 7:14 am
by VKafiris
I don't remember any Kick Off (Player Manager, Final Whistle, Return to Europe, etc) where the players have white legs and arms. The only strange in this screenshot is the scoring line. It's almost in the middle of the screen!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 7:26 am
by Ely
No that Scoring line is correct. As the Atari ST version has no black boarders (it uses a tecnique called Overscan to draw stuff to the outer edge of the TV/Monistor) around the playing area it just looks like it. What I find odd in the Where the Last Player to touch the ball is, there is just a number ??

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 7:54 am
by VKafiris
Hmmm you're right. Where's that player's name? Bugs, bugs, bugs...

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 10:05 am
by Gunther
I think this screen shows the playernumber instead of the playername. Never seen that before. And the ball is all white. The KO balls I know have black spots on it.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 10:10 am
by VKafiris
No, the KO ball as well as the Player Manager ball is all white.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 10:13 am
by VKafiris
Can you tell, according to the scanner, from which part of the field is the screenshot taken? I can't!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 10:24 am
by Gunther
Well then check out this ball with the black dots on it. Thats the KO ball as I know it.

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Compare the players with those on the picture above. They don't have any pink hands or heads.


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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:02 am
by Ely
I know the answer, look at the name of the picture 'kickoff'. It's the original 1989 Kickoff (1), there were no Player Names and the Ball was all White as it was with Player Manager, not sure about the Amiga versions tho.

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:05 am
by VKafiris
This is a KO2 screenshot not KO, isn't it?

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 12:47 pm
by Ely
Well yes but I was speaking about the First ScreenShot that Gunther provided. That's Kickoff (1) !!

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 12:56 pm
by VKafiris
The names are highlighted in the Amiga version. And the ball is white.