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Referee Stats quiz

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:32 pm
by Steve Camber
Here are the stats for the KO2 referees. Anyone care to guess what the 4 values represent?

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 15   6   4  80  R.J. FERNANDEZ
 20 200  20  85  F. ZAPPA
  5   3   0  30  J. DANIELS
  4 200   0  80  S. SCREECH
  5   1   1  70  J. BRAWN
 10 200  10  25  A.N. INDI
 10   5   2  70  D. MORGAN
 20   2   2  40  T. BOYLAN
 15   4   4  60  N. RAJAH
 10   3   2  80  B. BROWN
 30  10   5 100  J. MARTYN
 17   2   1  75  M. TAYLOR
 20  20   7  60  R. HARPER
  1   0   0  75  F. WILLIS
  2   0   0 100  G. PENN
 25   7   7  90  A. DENT
 16   1   1 100  I. BALL
  1   0   0  40  V. JONES
 20   6   6  30  D. WOOLEY
 16  15   2  50  D. DUFUS
 25   6   1  75  G. ELLIS
 20  10   5  90  S. REDPATH
  5   5   1 100  J. CUPITT
 20  10   5  90  M. SPURWAY

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:37 pm
by Abyss
Puzzling... are the values standalone or are used in conjuction to each other?

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:52 pm
by Steve Camber
The first 3 values appear to be closely related to each other.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 9:59 pm
by Pee
I'd guess the third was number of fouls allowed before giving a card.
Maybe the second is the higher it is, the higher the chance of the first card being a red one.
Final column, stamina?

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:14 pm
by Steve Camber
Still analysing the first 3, but the 4th is definitely not stamina.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:28 pm
by Abyss
Pee wrote:I'd guess the third was number of fouls allowed before giving a card.
Maybe the second is the higher it is, the higher the chance of the first card being a red one.


Zappa definitely doesn't allow 20 fouls before giving a card.

The 2nd column guess seems closer.

Come to think of it, I think that the referee differences in KO are:

Fouls allowed before giving a yellow card
Fouls allowed after the yellow, before giving a red card
Chance to directly give a red
Tendency to allow some player-knocking tackles

Anything else?

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:08 pm
by Steve Camber
Results (before I forget ;))

Column 1

Probability of giving a card as the number of fouls for a player increases.

Column 2

If 200, then just give a straight red. If less than 200 and a card is given, then add onto the number of fouls the player has comitted, making a 2nd card more likely.

Column 3

If not giving a card then add this onto the number of fouls a player has committed, so more likely to get a card in future.

Column 4

Likeliness of a tackle being given as a foul.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:30 pm
by Abyss
Interesting

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 20 200  20  85  F. ZAPPA
  5   3   0  30  J. DANIELS
  4 200   0  80  S. SCREECH



Steve, according to your explanation, if I get booked by Zappa, I should always get a red. But iirc Zappa also gives yellow cards.

Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:50 pm
by Steve Camber
Abyss wrote:Interesting

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 20 200  20  85  F. ZAPPA
  5   3   0  30  J. DANIELS
  4 200   0  80  S. SCREECH



Steve, according to your explanation, if I get booked by Zappa, I should always get a red. But iirc Zappa also gives yellow cards.

I've just played 10 minutes of constant fouling in a zappa game, and only got reds.

The maths does get a bit complicated in places, so I'm not ruling out yellows for zappa ;)

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:00 am
by TheFoxSoft
Abyss wrote:Interesting

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 20 200  20  85  F. ZAPPA
  5   3   0  30  J. DANIELS
  4 200   0  80  S. SCREECH



Steve, according to your explanation, if I get booked by Zappa, I should always get a red. But iirc Zappa also gives yellow cards.


no, Zappa gives always red cards

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:15 am
by Abyss
You are the champ - you certainly know better :)

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 8:50 am
by TheFoxSoft
Abyss wrote:You are the champ - you certainly know better :)


What kind of favour do you want? :)

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:05 am
by Steve Camber
Zappa, Screech and Indi don't bother with yellow cards.

AVOID!