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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:14 am
by Bounty Bob
And when you get V Jones, foul like a bastard?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:52 am
by filippodb
one of this value should be "variability". I recall dino talking about Zappa and said this referee act like the musician: he quite never made the same thing twice...

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:59 am
by filippodb
I bet the 3rd value is variability and second is red card possibility :D

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:25 am
by Calimero
Wasn't there a ref stat for how many fouls he 'sees' ?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 12:30 pm
by Steve Camber
Calimero wrote:Wasn't there a ref stat for how many fouls he 'sees' ?

Yes, that's Column 4.

100 I. BALL - Nothing escapes him, bring down a player and he will blow the whistle.

25 A.N. INDI - He will spot 1 in 4 fouls, but be careful, he only gives out red cards.

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:22 pm
by alkis21
Steve Camber wrote:A.N. INDI - He will spot 1 in 4 fouls, but be careful, he only gives out red cards.


Didn't remember that until that second match against Gianluca in Groningen. :(

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:28 pm
by SimonB
Bounty Bob wrote:And when you get V Jones, foul like a bastard?


I don't know how this applies to Steve's stats ... but V Jones will see most tackles and always issue a yellow card per foul but never a straight red iir - Naz and I use him as default ref for the last 15 years

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:37 pm
by alkis21
Steve Camber wrote:Column 2

If 200, then just give a straight red. If less than 200 and a card is given, then add onto the number of fouls the player has comitted, making a 2nd card more likely.


Does this mean that refs with 0 in the second column never give red cards?
This is dangerous information in the wrong hands!
(are you reading this, Spyros?) :twisted:

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:40 pm
by Abyss
Erm... Steve, can you please alter the second column values so all refs have at least 100? Non filthy KO thanks you.

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:56 pm
by Steve Camber
alkis21 wrote:
Steve Camber wrote:Column 2

If 200, then just give a straight red. If less than 200 and a card is given, then add onto the number of fouls the player has comitted, making a 2nd card more likely.


Does this mean that refs with 0 in the second column never give red cards?
This is dangerous information in the wrong hands!
(are you reading this, Spyros?) :twisted:

No, the number of fouls will continue to increase, meaning a red card will still follow eventually.

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:00 pm
by Robert Swift
V.Jones should be used as the 'control' here.

He gives a yellow card for every foul.

Column 1 is the chance of the foul receiving a card (low is higher).
Column 2 is the chance of the card being red.

For the others, interested in the answers...

Suspect that 4 may well be chance of a tackle being given as a foul, but I also thought this was related to the Tackling score of the player? Steve?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:02 pm
by Robert Swift
Steve - the best experiment is to compare V.Jones with F.Willis.

See if F.Willis gives a yellow for every foul, then see who has the higher propsensity to award a foul?

Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:18 pm
by Steve Camber
I gave the answers to the quiz halfway down the first page.

Kinda silly to keep guessing :lol:

Robert Swift wrote:Suspect that 4 may well be chance of a tackle being given as a foul, but I also thought this was related to the Tackling score of the player? Steve?

Correct, 4 is the chance of the ref seeing a player getting tripped up and blowing the whistle.
The Tackling score of the player decides who wins the ball when two players meet (no sliding involved, so a separate issue).