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Postby Stainy » Thu Nov 08, 2001 6:10 pm

no, your not wrong, you are right !
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Postby VKafiris » Fri Nov 09, 2001 8:20 am

Filippo you have a point here. The fact is that the goals he conceded should be excluded from the totals. Anyway, this won't change many things in the final standings.
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Postby JamesHBeard » Fri Nov 09, 2001 9:18 am

Fillipo mate, I agree with your comment about Tim 100% !! Either all his result statistics are included in the final analysis or none of them should be included.

Alkis, please can you change this mate..
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Postby VKafiris » Fri Nov 09, 2001 9:49 am

Well the idea was not to place a rank for Tim because he hasn't played KO as long as we have, so that makes him a newbie (no offence Tim!). He should play in the game of shame as he finished last, but he didn't play, because this would be unfair. So we just didn't put him in the standings as an actual competitor, but just as a participator, in order to mention him for his great job for the KO community. I think that Alkis can arrange the details.
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Postby filippodb » Sat Nov 10, 2001 8:43 am

Vasilis? Your post is strange, I don't really understand if you are agreeing or not! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif">
Anyway, Tim was not a competitor, he only makes a simple -non competitive- partecipation, then it's fair to not include the many goals/point (79/21!) scored against him.
This will make the group B a 7-players-group just like the group C.
And the total rankings will change a little for a lot of players!
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Postby kofoed » Sat Nov 10, 2001 10:34 am

lets count tims games... we played them...why not count them....even if tim has played less ko2-games than the rest of the players... still the group we were in was at least as tough as the other groups, Tim included.
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Postby filippodb » Sat Nov 10, 2001 10:50 am

the problem is that we accept to put out the Tim' statistics but we forget the statistics of the Tim's opponents.
So, we have to finally decide to consider or not consider the Tim's partecipation as a complementary.
It's all, I don't need to fight for the position, but if we need the fair OFFICIAL rankings we have to take a decision.
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Postby kofoed » Sat Nov 10, 2001 1:02 pm

then the only "fair" thing to do is to consider Tim's games as any other contestants game.

That Tim wasn't participating in the competition should have been announced BEFORE the games were played, and not after.

Like I've said.. it's impossible to make a 100 % fair ranking but... all members in our group except alkis and nazim loses on having to exclude the games against Tim...

Keep the ranking as it is. add Tims results to the ranking. (Tim 7 0 0 7 1-79 0 pts.)

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Postby filippodb » Sat Nov 10, 2001 2:07 pm

The rankings are obviously determineted by the groups, it's impossible to determinate a correct chart even because not all the group was of 8 players....
But I have to say that all the players have to be respected even if he's the champion or if he's the worst player.
Put outside the charts one or more players don't give the respect to the player, and if it's true that Fabio didn't play the match of shame this was not so good because we considered him just like a "second division" player. I don't want to have 1st and 2nd division players, then if a player partecipate to the tournament he has all the right including the possibility to win the tournament and even to play the match of shame. The next organization have to consider this point.
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Postby filippodb » Sat Nov 10, 2001 2:08 pm

We're a democratic forum, I don't like to see post with "end of story". What means?
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Postby kofoed » Sat Nov 10, 2001 2:10 pm

i meant that was my last word on the subject.... guess i should've made that more clear...
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Postby filippodb » Sat Nov 10, 2001 2:13 pm

ok, never mind! <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">
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Postby kofoed » Sat Nov 10, 2001 2:14 pm

i did absolutely not mean anything else.
i hope you forgive me for expressing me wrongly...
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