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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 1:45 pm
by VKafiris
Actually I've never seen an Atari ST, but it's supposed to be THE ENEMY of Amiga, right? lol
Non shall pass! Non shall pass!

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 2:21 pm
by Steve Camber
I've got ko2 world cup 90 edition for ST. Don't have the others, although I've played them all over the years (thanx Jim!)

If you haven't seen the ST version before, prepare for:

1. a game that doesn't crash
2. the clock never breaks
3. the whistle sample doesn't get stuck on
4. if you put the ball in the net then you get a goal.
5. if you don't put the ball in the net then you don't get a goal.
6. players don't dribble with the ball following along 3 yards behind them
7. you can see the whole scanner clearly while running along the left wing
8. a less stupid goalie
9. slightly faster action
10. groovy overscan cheap pitch drawing method

I've had to give all this up for the last few months for the sake of the competition, but I'll dust off the ST on Sunday after an early exit from the compy !

SteveC
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 3:47 pm
by MJB
10 cheers for Camber! HOORAY! HOORAY!....
Martin

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 3:58 pm
by JamesHBeard
Steve C,

Good on you for bringing an Atari ST along.

If you bring a towel and I bring a towel we can have a game of SPEEDBALL provided I am green of course..... <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif">

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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 4:13 pm
by Ely
Can I ask why you need a towel to play Speedball ?? I have Speedball 2 for the ST if you fancy that as well <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 7:33 pm
by Danny D
SpeedBall was and still is a awsome game.
Haven't played it in years.Pitty there was never something like it for the pc.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 8:32 pm
by JamesHBeard
Well basically me and Steve C used to play Speedball loads and loads and loads.

We always played best of 10 and found that half way through the games we were both soaked through from sweating loads cause the game is so intense !!

So then we decided to keep towels with us to get the sweat off so we could carry on playing the game !!

Speedball is brilliant and I think the original was better than Speedball 2.

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 8:50 pm
by Ely
Yuck re: Sweat, not sure I wanted to know the answer now <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif">

@ Danny, you do know you can get Speedball 2 for like 4.99 in most PC Games Shops (GAME, EB etc.) I keep seeing it and thing I should get that but never do !!

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2001 11:45 pm
by alkis21
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1. a game that doesn't crash

My Kick Off 2 never crashed either.

2. the clock never breaks

Ok..

3. the whistle sample doesn't get stuck on

Fair enough..

4. if you put the ball in the net then you get a goal.

Uh..what net? <IMG SRC="/phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif">

5. if you don't put the ball in the net then you don't get a goal.

See 4.

6. players don't dribble with the ball following along 3 yards behind them

Aren't you exaggerating a bit?

7. you can see the whole scanner clearly while running along the left wing

You're right, that IS annoying in the Amiga version.

8. a less stupid goalie

I disagree.

9. slightly faster action

Much faster I should say. That's the main advantage.

10. groovy overscan cheap pitch drawing method

Huh? I'm not sure what you mean by this one.

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2001 8:12 am
by Riempie
Maybe it's possible too to bring back some old memories by running some other classic games too (if we have the time off course). Now, I probably can't bring along my A1200 itself, but I could bring along my 2 Gig HD and turbo card with about 500 classic games all running straight from HD. So, if anyone can arrange an A1200, we could plug the HD and turbocard in and watch those oldies again. Just name a game you'd like to see and I'll take care of it. Or maybe make a list of games...
We could also play every Kick Off game released on the Amiga, I have them:
Kick Off
Kick Off Extra Time
Kick Off 2
Kick Off 2 Final Whistle
Kick Off 2 Return to Europe
Kick Off 3
Kick Off 3 multi language
Kick Off 3 European Challenge
Kick Off 96

I probably forgot some more...

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2001 10:24 am
by Steve Camber
"10. groovy overscan cheap pitch drawing method
Huh? I'm not sure what you mean by this one."

On the ST, the pitch extends right to the edge of the TV screen - i.e. no borders, bigger viewing area.

And it costs virtually NO CPU time to draw, just an H-blank interrupt changing the palette RGB. I take my hat off to Dino/Steve. Brilliant !

SteveC
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2001 10:58 am
by MJB
Camber,

I like the signature! Looks like I'll be requesting your services throughout the tournament if the last couple of weeks are anything to go by! Where can you get the little microswitch springs/contacts from?
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2001 11:02 am
by Ely
You gotta love Overscan, I always remember spending ages getting a demo he was writing to do that. And also new demos from people like 'The Care Bears' where they has stuff scrolling in the overscan areas each one getting better and better (i.e. Top, Bottom, Left & Right). Truly impressive. Blah Blah.

How come people break there joysticks, i've only even had one in 16years !!