On 2002-04-01 22:03, alkis21 wrote:
As everyone can see, I chose not to argue with Robert so far. That was mainly for two reasons:
1)I don't take World Rankings seriously at all. If you look at FIFA's World Ranking, you'll notice that Colombia is 5th, above at least 20 countries that can easily beat them.
Fine, so my ranking is no better than the FIFA ranking? Looks like both systems have difficulties. I hope you're writing a filthy abusive mail to FIFA right now about that Colombia ranking.
2)I don't take Robert seriously either. He may defend his point with his life one day, and then claim the exact opposite the next one. He's done it on numerous occasions. For instance, take a look at what he said 5 weeks ago:
Posted: 2002-02-23 00:08
Gloucester is a UK tournament and the winner will be the UK champion only. I would not place them above the Dartford champion in my U.P.O. ranking because the highest ranked UK player is Nazim and he was 5th. This gives us no basis to declare our champion better than the Dartford champion.
You obviously can't read. The ranking I was referring to was the one based on my personal opinion. Not the one above. Look matey, I could go back through quite a lot of your post and really embarrass you now, couldn't I?
However, I see that now he tries to make me look like his ally, so I feel the need to express my utter disagreement with his little list.
Alkis, this is a disgusting way to talk to somebody who has not offended you. I you are offended by being 5th in the list, a list that is created by a computer, then it is only you that looks pathetic.
At first I thought it was so pathetic I couldn't help but sympathize with him. Others have explained some of the obvious flaws, allow me to state some more:
-FIFA gives plenty of points to competition winners. A victory in a final does not equal a victory in any other match of the same competition. If you had thought of that, Robert, you'd save yourself from the embarrasment of having a #1 who was 4th in Athens and 2nd in England. Everybody saw that flaw, Filippo (with who you worked on this system) asked you to give more points to the WC competition but you turned your deaf ear.
I am not embarrassed by the work I have put into this. I notice no-one else has produced anything better. I have not turned a deaf ear to criticism. I have been debating this subject for the last week.
-The easiest way to lie is by using numbers. This format is so heavily biased against me, that most people shouted at you for it. My 17-0 against Tim gave me too many points, so you conveniently deleted it, while the 8 goals Gianluca scored against Andy were perfectly normal in your opinion. So I was lucky to be drawn in the same group with Tim? I suppose the fact that Martin Beard, Nazim, Jacob and Steve Screech were in the same group was unimportant? I don't remember FIFA say "The American Samoa are too weak, let's not give any points to Australia for their 31-0".
Alkis, the results against Tim Klifman were a joke. He'd never played KO2 in his life. Everyone in that group was about 200 points higher as a result. It totally distorted the rankings.
You also conveniently could not find the Greek meeting's results, although they were in the forum under a "Greek meeting results" header! So other people find it for you, and guess what? Your little point system only gives me 18 points, although I defeated #1 twice!
Alkis your total ignorance is really pissing me off now. There were only 18 of the Athens results in there, out of 30 games. The table you had there does not add up. In your absence I have spent a week trying to piece together the missing results - JUST TO GIVE YOU YOUR EXTRA POINTS. Why don't you read the thread 'Missing Athens Results?.
During my absence, you tried your best to underrate my abilities. You said twice that if I had shown up in Gloucester, I'd have gotten creamed due to my luck of practice, forgetting that I won the Greek touney with no practice at all.
Yawn. Do you think I've got nothing better to do than proceed with a hate campiagn against you? Why bother? Matey I earn €100,000 a year and this thing is a little sideshow to me. I spend my day working with spreadsheets and I thought I would try and do something with the results record, as an interesting project. Now I have the world and his wife thinking I've victimised them. Rikki calls it bollocks because he's not top. You guys are really very sad and egotistical if you think this is all motivated by trying to run you down. Jesus wept, I really can't believe I am hearing this.
So here I am in 5th place, although I've never lost a game against any of the players above me, and I have played against everyone but Rikki. Oh yes, I did play against Gianluca, you even witnessed that game remember? I won 4-1. You want more friendly results from Dartford?
vs Steve Screech: 4-1
vs Riemer: 3-0
vs Klaus: 4-0
vs Martin: 3-1
vs Mark Elliott: 5-3
vs you: 5-0
vs James L: 3-2
vs Filippo: 2-1
IT DOESN'T INCLUDE FRIENDLY RESULTS. WE DON'T HAVE A RECORD OF FRIENDLY RESULTS. I can find a post written by Alkis, saying that the friendly result against Gianluca didn't count because FoxSoft wasn't even using his own joystick.
and many more victories that I don't remember. I've never lost a match in my life in three global tournaments, yet I'm #5. How ironic is that?
You are sounding a real Wonka I'm afraid.
Bottom line: I have no problem with you cooking your little numbers and writing them over and over again until they suit your liking, nobody takes your list seriously anyway. However, if anyone decides to name this list official, I want my name deleted from it. I prefer being unranked than being judged by you.
Alkis, I simply cannot believe what you wrote earlier. You are totally out of order. I have a list of names that I feel like calling you right now, but to be honest that isn't my style and I'm still shellshocked by this totally unprovoked attack.
Last night I sent you a copy of the ranking spreadsheet so you could look at every last aspect of it. It includes the Athens results that I've rebuilt from your incomplete information. You have not replied to this friendly email but instead launched into a savage personal attack that leaves me thinking you have tourettes syndrome and a Napoleon complex.
I will say this one last time for you people.
IT IS ONLY A SPREADSHEET
IT IS NOT MY PERSONAL OPINION
IT IS ONLY BASED ON TOURNAMENTS RESULTS SINCE NOVEMBER
IT IS NOT DESIGNED TO VICTIMIZE ANY PERSON
The way I have been treated on here, you'd think I was Heinrich fucking Himmler. I am pretty disappointed with the company I've been keeping. My wife tells me that I am 29 and not to play children's games. When I look at some of the childish rubbish that's written on here, and the abuse that's hurled at me, it makes me wonder why I invest any time in the KOA at all.
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